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[cloudconstructor]

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Hence, Allah is the proof which is in no need of another proof. He is the self-evident Truth; and He is the evidence that substantiates everything.

So you agree that there is no external proof of God. I can similarly say that there is a three headed monster in my closet that has no other proof but he is self evident. But why, sure he exists just because I declared that he is a self evident truth.

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I don't know how clearer I could get.....to which he replied, "Only a disordered mind would ask such a question".

My reply on this logic was that the cause and effect analogy does not apply to the universe as a whole either. So the argument that god exists because everything needs a cause is invalid.

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If they are meaningless to you, then why can't you respond to them and prove them wrong??

There is nothing to prove wrong prince. Only a verifiable statement about a fact can be disproven. You are just praising a non-provable entity without any gist. We are discussing whether God exists or not. I expected anyone to show evidences and external proof that he does. You are posting long messages that has nothing to do with the topic in hand.

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(1) The fact that this "god" of yours is a "dragon" has disproved your argument that it is All-Powerful and has in fact proven that it itself is a created being. This "god" of yours has a shape and form and therefore has certain dimensions of space and time.

You cannot even see a joke when you read it.

Yeah "What a shame on the "All-Powerful" dragon."

You did not read the rules of the debates before posting. This is a debate about God and philosophy not any particular religion and islam. If you would like to discuss those issues then please go somewhere else, but not in this forum. We will have to edit any mention of religions and islam from your post.

And due to new forum policy set by the moderators, this topic will now be locked, because there are excessive uses of a particular religion. You may email at orionstranger@yahoo.com if you want to continue the discussion in a coherent manner.