Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject: C/C++ forum, this is nice.
I hope to see a lot of people around here. I was searching through google and found a programming forum in Bangladesh. I'm really thrilled to see it. Hope this will success in near future. I'd like to offer few 2 cents worth tips, hope moderator won't through any flame stick to me. You people can some advertisement to attracted new people. I will tell to my friends and other forums I'm in. Cheers.
Hope to get response in future.
-DK. :)
Wed Mar 24, 04 11:37 am
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject: Welcome
Hi DK,
A hearty Welcome to the group. We too hope that this forum succeeds.
Your suggestion is very welcome and we certainly will try to spred the words. The fact is that this forum has just been opened. We are working on to get the URL be known online and also offline. I hope to see you(and your friends also?) very active to turn this forum into a lively one.
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
Hi,
I'm doing my bachelor in IT from CQU australia, graduating this June. I'm in love with *NIX world and specially security related programmming. Not much in M$.
Yes I like to play with C/C++. Right now concentrating in FreeBSD and perl
What about you?
-DK.
Thu Mar 25, 04 11:15 am
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
DK,
Well I am more into the multimedia side than programming. Like to play with all kinds of 3d programs from bryce to maya for animations to still arts. And pshop, illustrator of course. Also I like to think I am an advanced flash developer, as well as a designer ( lol ).
In the programming side I do fairly well in php and other web designing stuffs. Last few months I have been learning Java in the pass time.
Personally, I am with this company, obviously. I lived in Canada and States for almost 5 yrs. Left BD following my HSC. But now I am back and trying to do something for BD, as you can see.
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject: Aa ha!
I love 3D works. But I've found that my ability towards art os very pour. So, I keep myself in back row and watch the beauty of it. I mostly like security programming. What special about FreeBSD?
A lot. First of all, I like to say if you use PHP then you know in which platform it works well? I like to say FreeBSD is a beast. If you can handle that one, certainly you can handle any OS.
I need to know more about OS which I can get from open-source not from wincrap. I need that for my future. By the way, good luck with your BD things. I'm not optimistic about it, don't ask me why. Ask all those creepy asshole who are implementing the IT infrastrusture in BD. :(
-DK.
Thu Mar 25, 04 1:43 pm
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
DK,
I like to say FreeBSD is a beast. If you can handle that one, certainly you can handle any OS.
To what level do you want to handle a OS? What is the significant advantage of FREEBsd or linux for that matter, over windows from a programmer's point of view? Since most of my works deal heavily with visual effects, I never paid much attention to that part. And how would a open source platform help u? Working on a project to write an OS from the scratch or something?
I'm not optimistic about it, don't ask me why. Ask all those creepy asshole who are implementing the IT infrastrusture in BD.
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
"To what level do you want to handle a OS? What is the significant advantage of FREEBsd or linux for that matter, over windows from a programmer's point of view? Since most of my works deal heavily with visual effects, I never paid much attention to that part. And how would a open source platform help u? Working on a project to write an OS from the scratch or something? "
As I deal mostly with networking. In that matter *NIX work as server and clients can use different OS as they like. In order to provide smooth commnunication between computer a stable OS is very much needed. According to my experience I don't see many org. who use M$ servers in large scale.
As programmer point of view I see back end products mostly run on *NIX and a large amount of products are Open-source. Such as webserver:Apache, E-solution:PHP and MySQL or Oracle. ISP delegation. Mail server. Good example. lets put yahoo. Yahoo uses FreeBSD for its opeartion. It's online shop is designed by LISP. Later they included Python. Mobile companies and online publisher uses ZOPE. You should see that. Mostly these days security is a big issue and M$ certainly failed to keep that up. I think they won't be able to do that in future. So, *NIX comes. If you need a cheap mainframe for graphics work, you can use clustering technology to create mainframe out of few PCs. Which most graphics/animation companies do that. Most of its cheap, free and freedom of work.
I don't believe in reinventing the wheel, as developing another OS. Most stupid idea of all. We should do what needed to be done to make things more perfect.
Certainly, I never feel like comparing Win with *NIX. Try GIMP from Linux, tell me what you feel. Java is creating another next generation 3D open-source OS. We thinking it will revolutionized the OS world and graphics theame. Transparent OS as they say. :)
Happy hacking.
-DK.
Fri Mar 26, 04 11:12 am
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
DK,
Thanks for the nice explanation. I was familiar with the power and flexibilities offered by *nix in networking functions. Your suggestion about the network rendering is an interesting one. Currently I do use some sort of network rendering, though not in the mainframe sense. I sequentially render parts of all the animation frames in 6 computers. That helps a bit.
I don't believe in reinventing the wheel, as developing another OS. Most stupid idea of all. We should do what needed to be done to make things more perfect.
I completely agree with that. Lately I hear, some BD ppl are making an operating system in Bangla. I find the idea rediculous. This is backtracking.
Java is creating another next generation 3D open-source OS. We thinking it will revolutionized the OS world and graphics theame. Transparent OS as they say
Let's see. Everything out of Java is still too slow and ram consuming. Where is some info on that new 3d OS?
So far Java has been a disappointment. They said it would open a new horizon in the web technology. Portability, platform independence and lotta stuffs. Honestly, how many sites you see using applets these days? Java has a long way to go. But it could be a hint to something better. _________________
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Fri Mar 26, 04 12:47 pm
dinangkur Super Moderator
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
Let's see. Everything out of Java is still too slow and ram consuming. Where is some info on that new 3d OS?
So far Java has been a disappointment. They said it would open a new horizon in the web technology. Portability, platform independence and lotta stuffs. Honestly, how many sites you see using applets these days? Java has a long way to go. But it could be a hint to something better.
You're 100% right about it. They promised a lot but failed to deliver it. Most biggest problem with slow execution. At that PHP came in and taking over Java at Web. Casue, PHP offer sever base rendering. Secure and fast.
About that look at www.slashdot.org news 2 days before. I will look for the link and let you know. I'm thinking to study how to make a cheap mainframe based on beouwlf clustering tech. As far as i remember few people did it back 2002.
What you heard about Bangla is based on Linux. Ankur. It was not developing OS from scratch but adding Bangla language capability in GNOME. As linux is avilable in different language, so people feel that Bangla should be added. Base technology is same just adding a new feture in it.
-DK.
Fri Mar 26, 04 1:14 pm
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject: Java, Php, Flash
As far as I remember, Java never became a big part of the web. And why would it be? What Java had ever to offer in this arena? Just imagine trying to build an entire site in applet! lol. Even the Java servlets never caught on. I would say, Flash on the other hand, is much more fit for the web. And it is rapidly outpacing most everything else. The ease of use, the flexibility, a great community, increasing power are all making it an attractive option for the designers. And now Macromedia is incorporating more power with Flash 2004 by making it able to be database driven. A form based development environment and robust data binding coupled with Flash's astonishing animation effects are very attractive options.
Were you talking about this?
Quote:
gruenz writes "Linux Planet writes in this article about a project inside Sun developing "an experimental 3D successor to Java Desktop that they believe will change the way we interact with computers." A demo is available from Sun. 'In the demonstration, Jonathan Schwartz, vice president of Sun's software group, increases the transparency of a window so that you can see through it, turns a window on its side so that it sits at the edge of a screen like a book on a book shelf, turns a window completely around and leaves a note on the back, and takes a database of CDs presented as physical CDs, that you flip through, reading the labels, just as you would with real CDs, until you locate the one you want.'" It's called Looking Glass, in case you've heard that name before.
Sounds fabulous to me. I will do some more reading on it.
It was not developing OS from scratch but adding Bangla language capability in GNOME.
If it is about adding the language capability with Linux then I am all for it.
Are you connected to the project in any way? _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
Afford best design, implement best solution. Outsource your web design.
Sat Mar 27, 04 1:12 am
dinangkur Super Moderator
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
I know the people who are working on Bangla GNOME. On 15th april there is a fair (actually first fair Ankur and bdlug, first-time in BD). If you want more info, let me know. I will be there, if I managed my semester. Not sure about it.
Yes that's the project I was talking about regarding Java.
-DK.
Sat Mar 27, 04 10:27 am
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
DK,
Thanks for the offer. Actually I am kinda geek type you know. Not very good at meeting and talking to ppl. If you do come, let me know. I may get interested.
Who are the guys with the GNOME project?
You mean the fair had been organised outside of BD till now? Who are the main guys behind this? Fill me in, if u please abt BDlug's activities. _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
Afford best design, implement best solution. Outsource your web design.
Sun Mar 28, 04 7:07 am
dinangkur Super Moderator
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject:
Join Bdlug groups. The only and one geeks community in Bangladesh. You will meet the hackers who are resposible to create extraordinary softwares for UNIX. There are few of them, who are really really big ones. Think hacker came to fortune 500 feature. :)
