Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 376
Location: Savar, Dhaka
Post subject: New msn serach threatens Google? Msn vs Google
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Microsoft is expected to take its first baby steps on the road to Web search independence on Thursday, with the launch of a homegrown Internet search tool and changes to its Internet search engine.
...More significantly, MSN will introduce a homegrown Web crawler and algorithmic search engine in test form, giving Webmasters the chance to vet the system before it is set to launch later this year, according to the timeline of Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.
"If this is a next-generation airplane, this is only the inside of the engine," Yusuf Mehdi, head of MSN Search, said in an interview Wednesday.
Microsoft is trying to get ahead in a three-horse race with Google and Yahoo in Web search,
Read the full story here:
[http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3376041]
and here
[http://news.com.com/MSN+launches+revamped]
+search+engine/2100-1032_3-5254083.html?tag=nl
Try the new msn search here:
[http://search.msn.com/static/message.htm]
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Microsoft is coming after Google in a big way, announcing that it has spent in excess of over 100 million dollars (said in best Mini-me voice). Will it be enough?
Bill Gates says he thinks the search engine will be ready sometime before the year is out. Usually whatever Microsoft sets its sights on it achieves. Only time will tell if this will be any different.
Bill Gates is investing $6.8 Billion, on R and D. [http://www.spacedaily.com/2003/031117085104.efmixrjk.html]
[http://www.a42.com/node/view/87]
And heres a transcript of BG talking about his investments:
[http://www.microsoft.com/]
billgates/speeches/2004/03-29Gartner.asp
Microsoft just has to get a share of every pie out there! And it is true also that "usually whatever Microsoft sets its sights on it achieves. Only time will tell if this will be any different."
The current version on msn does not look very efficient. The search results are not very relevent. And the indeed database seems to have still a long way to go. _________________ “You might say reality is the result of complex negotiations between the observer and the observed. But that is simply a point of view…”
Digital Bangladesh
Thu Jul 29, 04 1:29 pm
quantum Site Admin
Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Post subject: Google will win over msn!
Given the previous record of micro$oft i don't think it will outrun google anytime soon. Microsoft has always been too commercial and this reflects pretty heavily in their MSN seach engine too. Too muc advetising and the search results are compromised too. Big companies can buy higher ranking in the related keyword search. Which sucks. Google never compromises the search results. It's a fair game for everybody. Can MSN ever really match that mentality? I doubt that. Greed. _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
Afford best design, implement best solution. Outsource your web design.
Agreed with quantum. Although, msn promises that they will cut down on sponsored search results, I doubt how much they will make good on their words. Msn = Greedy. Google wins! _________________ “You might say reality is the result of complex negotiations between the observer and the observed. But that is simply a point of view…”
Digital Bangladesh
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 283
Location: Dhaka,Bangladesh
Post subject:
Lets see who win!!! _________________ Just Fly With Your Dreams!!!
Digital Vision
Sat Aug 28, 04 9:43 pm
dude Power User
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 376
Location: Savar, Dhaka
Post subject: Steve Ballmer on new MSN search
Steve Ballmer on new MSN search
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Uber-corporation Microsoft (c) announced a new search service today. Microsoft bigwig Steve Ballmer had this to say:
"Our new search engine is the ultimate in modern search technology. It indexes the entire internet and stores it in a Microsoft Access (tm) database. Users querying the engine for a given term (such as "linux") are given links to a random assortment of possibly-related sites."
(interviewer) Google's search is lauded as highly relevant and lightening fast. Yet you've innovated and taken a different course, returning random results. Why is this better than Google's method?
(S.B.) "Well, you have to keep in mind that our concern is the average windows user. We have discovered a flaw in Google's technology; the heavy reliance on research, strong programming and intelligence, while novel, has resulted in a system where relevant, useful results are returned very quickly."
(interviewer) ..and your method is better than this because...
(S.B.) "Ok. When someone searches on Google, they are limited to only relevant items, because that's what Google has latched onto. The weakness in Google's method is that most pages are not returned, because a machine has decided they are irrelevant. The new Microsoft (c) paradigm is that we let the USER decide what's relevant and what's not; the machine makes no determination of what is or is not relevant. See how it's better? Look, 99% of all computers in the world run Windows. And people don't mind rebooting, not at all. We've added value to this model, someone's got to do the work, why not just dump it on the user, let them take the blame? My porsche won't go any slower because someone else had to do extra work. That's the beauty of the Microsoft way (tm)! We let other people do all the work, then we take the credit."
(interviewer) But most people say they like Google specifically *because* it returns relevant terms so quickly.. aren't you just dumping all the work of searching back on the user's lap?
(S.B.) "You clearly are an enemy of innovation. Look, People are smarter than machines. Therefore, since a person can only view one page at a time, a person must view every existing web page to know whether or not their guess of which page is most relevant, is in fact true. And so, our search engine is better, because we don't prevent the user--"
(interviewer) Isn't this all just a semantic argument against your economic competitor and technological superior, Google?
(S.B.) "This interview is over."
A Microsoft Public Relations Representative did note that search terms pertaining to the purchase of goods and services did in fact not return random results, and in point of fact return only a single link, to www.microsoft.com.
That is funny! Is it real or make up? _________________ “You might say reality is the result of complex negotiations between the observer and the observed. But that is simply a point of view…”
Digital Bangladesh
Thu Oct 28, 04 2:10 am
dude Power User
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 376
Location: Savar, Dhaka
Is it real or make up?
