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aronnok Beginner User

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 44
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
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Post subject: Is Windows a virus? |
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No, Windows is not a virus. Here's what viruses do:
1) They replicate quickly -- Okay, Windows does that.
2) Viruses use up valuable system resources, slowing down the system as they do so -- Okay, Windows does that.
3) Viruses will, from time to time, trash your hard disk -- Okay, Windows does that, too
4) Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the user, along with valuable programs and systems -- Sigh... Windows does that, too
5) Viruses will occasionally make the user suspect their system is too slow (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware -- Yup, that's with Windows, too
Until now it seems Windows is a virus but there are fundamental differences:
Viruses are well supported by their authors, are running on most systems, their program code is fast, compact and efficient and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature.
So, Windows is not a virus!
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Sun Oct 17, 04 8:49 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

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Note about Windows 95
Windows '95 supports Plug 'n' Pray peripherals!!! |
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Sun Oct 17, 04 8:53 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

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Post subject: Bill Gates V Robert Tappen Morris |
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What's the difference between Bill Gates and Robert Tappen Morris, Jr. (the Internet Worm Hacker)?
Robert Tappen Morris, Jr., got six months in jail for crashing 10% of the
computers that Bill Gates made $100 billion crashing. |
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Sun Oct 17, 04 8:55 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

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Q: How many Microsoft support staff does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Four. One to ask "What is the registration number of the light bulb?", one to ask "Have you tried rebooting it?", another to ask "Have you tried reinstalling it?" and the last one to say "It must be your hardware because the light bulb in our office works fine..." |
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Sun Oct 17, 04 8:59 pm
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hasnatme Moderator


Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 283
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Is it possible to make a virus for windows from Linux? I mean..with linux application or which is run on linux. _________________ Just Fly With Your Dreams!!!
Digital Vision
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Sun Oct 17, 04 9:01 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

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Why not?
When you know the Languages, you have got the ideas, you know where the security wholes exists and you are smart enough to create those viruses..
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Sun Oct 17, 04 10:25 pm
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hasnatme Moderator


Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 283
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Doesn't Linux have any security holes? _________________ Just Fly With Your Dreams!!!
Digital Vision
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Mon Oct 18, 04 5:49 am
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quantum Site Admin


Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 1048
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Post subject: Linux hacking vs windows hacking |
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That's a very good point you raised Hasnat. Linux is just as vulnerable as windows if it is not configured properly by a farily knowledgable user. The fact that linux is open source means everyone has access to the source codes. Naturally, the more info you have on your enemy, the easier it is to hack him. But you don't hear lunux hacking as much as the windows hacking for a number of reasons. For instance, there are not nearly as many linux users as the windows users. Which also means hackers get less exposure for their work by hacking linux, thus is discouraged to try hacking linux. The open source community is very pro-active and a patch is released as soon as a vulnerability is discovered(but that does not help if the user is not keeping up with the latest patches). And there is a certain level of respect towards the linux users from the hacking community.
A living prrof for the fact can be found at http://www.zone-h.org. There are more linux vulnerabilities and website defacements for linux machines than windows. _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
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Mon Oct 18, 04 9:22 am
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hasnatme Moderator


Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 283
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Exactly..quantum..exactly  Thats what I wanted to know from aronnok
You know quantum...I'm always bust out of laughing when anyone shows some over attichude to windows....I don't know..why Linux user thinks themselve very expert..when they know only notepad(don't mind). I always say this to one of my youngest brother and he got too much angry. He is extremely expert in Linux and can hack your pc with in a moment..but he never shows any bad to windows..yes..one thing he shows that..Windows price is very high. And he said...anything is possible when you want to and he is very sure about linux security and also belived if Linux will use as much as windows then Linux can fall also in this trouble like Microsoft Windows  _________________ Just Fly With Your Dreams!!!
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Mon Oct 18, 04 11:03 am
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quantum Site Admin


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Mon Oct 18, 04 11:11 am
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dinangkur Super Moderator


Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 491
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There is a good fighting going on.  According to my believe an IT professional must be free of any prejudice. Windows is Bad, Linux is good, FreeBSD is best. These are thinking of a kid. Be an explorer and feel free to comment on any specific issue, not those large typical issues which are common between M$ and Penguin. It's like capitalism and socialism is fighting. Let me give you the information guys socialism is distroyed by capitalism. So, don't be that much angry that Bill Gates gets all the money and you don't get a cent of it. Look in from different angle, you're better that those thingy for being an explorer with an attitude to learn anything which can help the world and IT industry in anyway and make the future more beautiful.
-DK _________________ ...we too are stardust... |
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Mon Oct 18, 04 8:44 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 44
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Mon Oct 18, 04 10:41 pm
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quantum Site Admin


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There are some good points in there. Some are just superficial. Nobody is really accusing you why you are using linux. I am sure, for what you do, linux is the best choice. The question that Hasnat raised is that if Linux had any security hole of its own. I think, yes there are many.
On another note; please attach the appropiate source information when you copy and paste large texts from another website(with author's permission, if it is too large or something crucial). We don't want to run into copy right infringement. Do we?  _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
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Mon Oct 18, 04 11:12 pm
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aronnok Beginner User

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Mon Oct 18, 04 11:47 pm
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quantum Site Admin


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I knew about the GNU. And if your copied items have proper GNU license then it is kool.
But the above text you copied exactly from:
[http://hazard.com/linux/10.html]
And the site does not seem to say anywhere explicitly that the writer released it under GNU license.
Anyway, let's not make a big deal out of it. Just something to keep on your mind. I know I would'nt like it if someone just copied and pasted my articles to another website without my permission. So let us respect other people's intellectual rights. And it'd take you only little time to also paste the URL of the page you got the things. We could visit to those pages and learn more things too.
Cheers. _________________
Dust fills my eyes / Clouds roll by / and I roll with them / Centuries cry / Orders fly / and I fall again
Afford best design, implement best solution. Outsource your web design.
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